|Episode Fifty-Seven: George Wants Liefeld Tentacle Pr0n
||[Aug. 31st, 2012|04:21 pm]
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Pivoting towards the funny (or at least funny-looking), thanks to
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Bell-bottom jeans enthusiast Rob Liefeld has left DC Comics in a huff. He has a point, but he's lashing out at Scott Synder of all people. Class it up, buddy.
Speaking of bizarre anatomy and costumes, check out Made of Fail's venture into pro wrestling: Signature Move. You know you want more George in your earholes.
Geoff Johns is just dumping all his bad ideas into Justice League so he has nothing but good left for Green Lantern, right? Right? Or maybe this is a good change? Thoughts? We won't yell at you. Too much.
Apologies for that odd echo that pops up here and there. Something funky happened with the recording and, trust me, it was a lot worse before.
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You can only be disappointed by people in whom you have certain hopes and expectations. I would rather be disappointed than uninspired.
Quick correction of what I said...
My memory of Kirby joining Eisner in the late 30s is true, but he was in his 20s, not his teens, and he'd actually done some comic work starting in 1936 before temporarily leaving the field to work as an in-between animator on Popeye cartoons. So he goes even further back in the industry than my claim.
Lee, though, did get his start as a teenager, starting as an office assistant at Timely (not Atlas) in 1939, and graduating to writer and editor by the time he was 18 in 1941.
Just to touch on something George said, while Bob Harras has very, very many problems, Marvel's bankruptcy stemmed more from the executive decisions and not creative ones. Really most of the blame can be placed on the feet of Ron Perelman (no, not that Ron Perlman) who was the Marvel chairman at the time and ran the company into the ground. Bob Harras was still around when Marvel got itself out of bankruptcy.
Now I'm not defending Harras. He alienated a lot of talented writers due to his heavy handed editoral tactics. He extended the Clone Saga (even further than it already was) because when he took over as EIC he didn't want the conclusion of that story to steal focus away from the X-Men's Age of Apocalypse story, which was partially his baby since he came from the X-Men editor's office. Also his run on the Avengers was easily the worst that didn't have "Liefeld" on the cover. And yeah, I think a lot of whats happened with the New 52 feels very familiar to late 90s Marvel, and not in a good way.
Anyways, great podcast everyone! I could have listened to an episode twice as long. Everyone had great points and (as someone who sees himself as a comic book pusher) I was happy to see you guys mention some of my favorite books right now like Animal Man and Demon Knights.
And yeah, I think a lot of whats happened with the New 52 feels very familiar to late 90s Marvel, and not in a good way.
And who just joined the writing team, taking over Teen Titans and Superboy? Tome DeFalco! Harras's predecessor as Marvel EiC, and fellow chronicler of the Clone Saga. This bodes well.