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Episode 36 is live!





SHOW NOTES

Thank you so much for Mark (@MarkDoesStuff from Mark Reads/Mark Watches! Catch up on his Harry Potter and Twilight reviews, or follow him with his current projects with The Hunger Games and Firefly!

Also a huge thank you to the always wonderful Cleolinda Jones (cleolinda) for joining us, and for filling in for Dayna this episode! Read her latest interview at CNN's Geek Out! column!

Finally, a huge congratulations to our dedicated audio editor Devin (sora50) and his fiancée Rachel for their recent engagement!

Been following Emily's eyes at foresthouseeyes?
  • Long story short: Her most recent surgery is taking well and the donations have made a huge difference!

  • In related news, the Made of Fail auction has been won! Listener George will be joining us on January's show, with a discussion topic of his choosing, for his winning bid of $500! Thank you so very much, George!
Emily still has one eye left to take care of! Visit foresthouseeyes for more details on how you can help!

We hope you enjoyed Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 as much as we did! And even if you didn't, it doesn't make you any less of a fan, according to Damon Lindelof in an incredibly classy retraction of his previous statements of the opposite view. Major respect, man. Major respect.

And finally, but no less important, if you haven't been following the story of the seven-year-old girl who was ridiculed for liking Star Wars, don't worry. We've got you covered. Katie, The Internet thinks you are awesome and you keep on rocking. Geek girls are a treasure, and we here at Made of Fail would like to add our voices to the pile of affirmation. May the Force be with you, Katie.

Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Email us at made_of_fail@yahoo.com, or send us a message on Twitter: @made_of_fail.
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[User Picture]From: skybreak_seeker
2010-12-05 08:32 am (UTC)

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Man, I -really- wanted to be on this episode. Damn you Hughesnet, DAAAMMMN YOOOUUU.
[User Picture]From: eruvadhril
2010-12-05 02:22 pm (UTC)

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DOCTOR WHO EPISODE THIS MONTH SQUEEEEEEE!

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce my username either. It's Sindarin, so I'll probably need to find someone who speaks Welsh to teach me. Speaking of, Bill Nighy was totally being Welsh... just not particularly well, or consistently. Rhys Ifans was Irish, but the name of the particular region escapes me. You were saying how you only noticed the Lovegoods' accents on certain words; personally, I sometimes mistake Irish accents for American when I first hear them, until some of the more distinctive consonants turn up.

MARK WILL BE WATCHING DOCTOR WHO SQUEEEEEEE! Omg excite.
[User Picture]From: cleolinda
2010-12-05 05:03 pm (UTC)

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Speaking of, Bill Nighy was totally being Welsh... just not particularly well, or consistently

"Mr. Potturrrrrr." I kept having Pirates of the Caribbean flashbacks.
[User Picture]From: eruvadhril
2010-12-05 11:49 pm (UTC)

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Heee. Yes. It's like his accent kept drifting further and further north, and then he'd suddenly notice that it was somewhere around Edinburgh and yank it back down again.
[User Picture]From: cue_face_palm
2010-12-09 10:16 pm (UTC)

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Maybe this is just me, but if Nighy wanted to do a Welsh accent so badly, maybe he should have bothered with a vocal coach who was, well, Welsh. As it turned out, it sounded more like: "When a Mommy Welsh Lilt loves a Daddy Scottish Brogue very, very much, they come together and have lots and lots of awkward, indecipherable baby accents."
From: noelct
2010-12-05 05:16 pm (UTC)

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Mark, fantastic job on your first podcast. What Kevin said about the climax of SERENITY doesn't spoil any of the film's twists. If anything, it was a tasty teaser.

About the avoiding of spoilers, I pre-ordered DEATHLY HALLOWS, received it in the mail on the day of its release, and read it 2 years later. Yes, the big final book, and I got distracted by other things and didn't touch it for 2 years. Which says so much about both my patience and wandering attention. Shockingly, despite the fact that I didn't cut myself off from anyone, very little of the book was spoiled for me. Not sure how I managed that, but there you go.

I hate to point this out, but was somebody snacking during the record? There was a lot of crackling noise in the background.
[User Picture]From: cleolinda
2010-12-06 12:59 am (UTC)

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I can't figure out what that was, either. There was something that sounded like someone jingling a handful of coins or keys or something, and I remember asking at the time what it was.
[User Picture]From: queenanthai
2010-12-06 04:12 am (UTC)

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It sounded like someone eating chips. Or an apple.
[User Picture]From: cleolinda
2010-12-06 03:28 pm (UTC)

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My animal crackers were strictly pre-show, so IDK.
[User Picture]From: uldihaa
2010-12-06 11:58 pm (UTC)

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Sounded like someone cracking nuts, maybe pistachio's?
[User Picture]From: sanat
2010-12-06 04:48 am (UTC)

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I was wondering what the cooing and tweeting sounds were around 53:00 and 53:12. Was there a live feed from a local aviary?
[User Picture]From: queenanthai
2010-12-06 06:56 am (UTC)

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Yeah, Devin; what the hell, man?
[User Picture]From: cleolinda
2010-12-06 03:19 pm (UTC)

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The funniest part was, I think the bird sounds only came up when Trekkie Girl was mentioned. ~Why do birds suddenly appear...~
[User Picture]From: sora50
2010-12-18 01:32 am (UTC)

Only...12 days late to the party

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Not sure what the crackling was. I tried to minimize it the best I could.

To answer the questions downstream: the sounds over Trekkie Girl were tribble noises. Since she was talking to Kevin from across the room her voice didn't pick up well. That left me two options: crank her volume which would make the sound quality go (further) to hell or cut those parts entirely. I took the third option: confuse the hell out of the fanbase. That's how I Rowl.
[User Picture]From: cleolinda
2010-12-05 10:30 pm (UTC)

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Btw, Kevin--after some reflection, I really do think the "Oh my God, SHUT UP" movie score WAS New Moon. I distinctly remember the first half hour or so wanting it to just go away. Which, like we discuss, is ironic because Alexandre Desplat did both that one and Deathly Hallows.
[User Picture]From: alliancesjr
2010-12-06 09:24 pm (UTC)

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That seriously is hilarious in hindsight.
[User Picture]From: faerieglen
2010-12-08 09:13 pm (UTC)

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My one "Soundtrack, shut up!" moment this year was Shutter Island with its horribly overdone DUN DUN DUN music.
[User Picture]From: mysticowl
2010-12-06 02:37 am (UTC)

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Mark! Hi, Mark!

First of all: the auction for Emily's Eyes (doesn't it sound like a horror movie title?) - you all are awesome.

I'm with Mark on the awkwardness of the Tent Dance scene. Cleo, remember how you called the meadow scene in Twilight the sexless sex scene? That's how I feel about the Tent Dance scene, it felt like a love scene, like there was nowhere for it to go but for a kiss. And you know what, I will admit to being a little bit of a Harmonian, but you know what, I am not watching these movies to see Steve Kloves get to make money off fanfiction; post it on fanfiction.net like the rest of us.

Another reason we know Helena Bonham-Carter will be doing the polyjuice scene: the camera specifically zoomed in on Hermione watching Bellatrix's hair fall onto her clothes.

The scene I really need in Part 2 is Neville's Crowning Moment of Awesome with the snake and the sword (True Gryffindor!). Neville's story is my favourite part of the series, more than Harry's or anyone else's.
[User Picture]From: cleolinda
2010-12-06 03:27 pm (UTC)

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That's how I feel about the Tent Dance scene, it felt like a love scene

Oh my Gooooooood. Harry gave her this LOOK when it started that made me so incredibly uncomfortable. I think if there had been any genuine chemistry there, we would have been like, "Huh, that was unexpectedly kind of hot." But it was so forced that, instead, everyone just felt appalled. I still can't get over how my entire theater went "AUGHHHH!" during the locket scene.

I am not watching these movies to see Steve Kloves get to make money off fanfiction; post it on fanfiction.net like the rest of us

And the thing is, I understand the appeal of Harry/Hermione; I've just never thought the books indicated it was going to happen. And this is the movie of the book where it doesn't happen. STOP TRYING TO MAKE FETCH HAPPEN!
[User Picture]From: uldihaa
2010-12-06 10:45 pm (UTC)

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I'll admit to being Harry/Hermione, and even I felt that scene was seriously forced and awkward. I cringed and just wanted to tell the director to please stop doing this.
[User Picture]From: shesnotallthere
2010-12-08 02:47 am (UTC)

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I was actually really happy with the Tent Dance scene, just as I have been with the other odd Harry/Hermione moments in the last couple of movies. Not because I ship H/Hr, but because for me, it's these scenes that allow Ron to MAKE SOME DAMN SENSE.

At the point in the book where Ron goes all "I think you two are getting up to sexy hijinks behind my back", I was just *done* with this character. I could relate to his insecurity but this was over the top. Even if he's suffering from Horcrux exposure...really? I mean, REALLY? Set aside the fact that Harry and Hermione don't even seem AWARE of each other as "boy" and "girl" in the series...the fact remains that up to this point, they've rarely even been *alone in a room together* for any length of time. In the book, this is the point where I went from relating to Ron to worrying that his delusion on this matter was verging on ACTUAL MENTAL ILLNESS.

The awkward Harry/Hermione moments they've shoehorned into the movies may not be fun to watch, but at least there's some acknowledgement now that Harry has boy parts and Hermione has girl parts and that these two people are very close. For me, that makes MovieRon's fears way more understandable than BookRon's. It doesn't seem SO out there, and I'm able to relate more.
[User Picture]From: scrap_blitz
2010-12-22 07:48 am (UTC)

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Extremely late here, but I totally agree. :D
[User Picture]From: ipuchan
2010-12-06 02:04 pm (UTC)

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while i wait patiently for it to download on iTunes i checked out Katie's story. poor kid, but its awesome she got such a good response. I love the internet, cause for ever Troll there's 6 people who are here with the ability to make someone's day awesome. Thanks for sharing that!
[User Picture]From: uldihaa
2010-12-06 11:32 pm (UTC)

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So Twilight might do the Wife Husbandry thing?

That's a little better... I guess?

Still extremely squiky.
[User Picture]From: sevenmarie
2010-12-07 09:30 pm (UTC)

comments/questions

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hey guys! long-ish time listener (via the lovely miss cleolinda, take a shot!) 1st time commenter

I have a couple of comments (partly because i don't know where else to post them) and a question

HP comments:
expelliarmus-i love that this is Harry's main defensive spell. and that he was taught it by Snape (unintentionally)

i can't comprehend how they will rectify the Horcruxes problem. harry has NO IDEA what the other Horcruxes could be?! he has never even heard of the Hufflepuff cup or the diadem of Ravenclaw?! he doesn't know that Nagini could be one?

i don't get the blackthorn wand joke? (maybe i am just naive?)

the end of the movie-i really feel that it would have been a bit better if they had gone on like 2 minutes longer on harry like "i need to talk to Ollivander and Griphook. that would give it a tiny bit of hope, now it is so bleak. because when the movie ended now, everyone was crying and it was like OK it is 3am and now i want to cry the rest of the night about Dobby.

during the Horcrux locket scene, i recalled DanRad's interview where he was like "she attacked me, like an animal" and i was like WOW she DOES attack him! i also love how up until that point the Horcrux totally had Ron under it's spell but LOVE (causing anger) forced him into action

OMG what Bellatrix does to torture Hermione!!! Emma Watson is a good screamer! not all out belting it like people do lots of times in torture scenes but those high pitched squeals of pain!

Speaking of love--i was just watching the lion the witch and the wardrobe over the weekend and i realized how much the white witch is like Voldemort in that she completely underestimates the power of love (she even says "so much for love") and it becomes the ruin of her.

your "in conclusion, Alan Rickman" reminds me of what my husband says all the time: "captain Kirk! therefore, your argument is invalid"

foresthouseeyes-i was thinking of crocheting a Jayne hat (http://www.knittingninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/jayne.jpg) how do i go about donating it to the auction?
[User Picture]From: queenanthai
2010-12-07 10:35 pm (UTC)

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Just make a post to foresthouseeyes describing the hat and set a starting bid. Check the userinfo on the site if you need to.
[User Picture]From: alliancesjr
2010-12-09 05:14 pm (UTC)

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i don't get the blackthorn wand joke? (maybe i am just naive?)

I could say that it's not a penis joke, but that would be a phallusy.
[User Picture]From: queenanthai
2010-12-09 06:01 pm (UTC)

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You are so done with the dick jokes. Shlong for now.
[User Picture]From: alliancesjr
2010-12-09 09:26 pm (UTC)

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Has it really petered out?
[User Picture]From: queenanthai
2010-12-10 02:41 am (UTC)

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I'll be absolutely sure to tell you wang it does.
[User Picture]From: sevenmarie
2010-12-10 12:54 am (UTC)

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so...naive it is then!
[User Picture]From: aunt_zelda
2010-12-10 11:40 pm (UTC)

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What’s with the weird parakeet noises in the background? Is there some joke that I’m not getting?

Yay, Cleo! Yay … guest guy!

“Get to the CHOPPAH!!!!!”
*sporfleDIEZ*

Hurray for Emily’s eyes! Keep repossession illegal!

DOCTOR WHO EPISODE?!?!?!??!?!?!
(Dangit, now I’ve gotta REALLY catch up on the last season! *strikes a determined pose*)

“We now own one-eighth of her eye.”
Cool?

I can’t wait for George’s episode, he sounds awesome and IS awesome.

Calvinball D&D? Yes!

Oh god, the 8-Bit Theater D&D skit! *cackles* Me laughing hysterically at that reference spurred me showing my boyperson (who was wondering what I was laughing about) and our D&D group. That was all kinds of awesome.

Despicable Me was SO DAMN GOOD!!!

Luna Lovegood and the Malfoy Basement
Dude, I would so go to see that movie. Luna and her dad were brilliantly cast.

I didn’t see much of the Bathilda scenes, because I was too busy hiding behind my hands and squeaking in fear and holding my boyperson’s hand so hard I’m pretty sure I broke his bones.

“In conclusion: Alan Rickman.”
Yeppers!

I really don’t see the point of shipping wars. I can understand having a favorite pairing, or preferring slash fic to het fic or whatever, but shipping wars? Silliness. Doesn’t everyone know that OT3s are the best and orgies solve everything?

“The term ‘slash fic’ comes from Kirk/Spock!”
Hee! What’s really awesome is running into someone who was actually there for that. A couple years ago I got talking to someone who wrote a lovely Heroes Christmas fic, and it turned out she had grandkids my age because she was around for the first Kirk/Spock stuff. SO COOL!

Kevin should sing more Les Miserables!

The Tunnel-vision scene doesn’t sound too bad. Not that anything can make Breaking Dawn good, but it’s probably the best thing they could have done for that … scene. *shudders*

“There’s four books? You didn’t tell me that!”
*sporfles* Oh god, that is cruel …

Twilight was like trashy beach reading: you read it when you have nothing else to do on a long summer day, and it’s over. Not memorable, not good, not atrocious, just … there. New Moon was meh, but stuff happened so that was tolerable on a ‘this is poorly written and cheesy and ridiculous, but hey, vampires and werewolves! Something to waste a couple days with!’ Eclipse … NO. Just … NO. That was where my friends were getting into arguments about Jacob vs. Edward and it stopped being a couple silly books and started being SRS BSNES ZOMG I AM NO LONGER SPEAKING TO YOU and I realized that they probably weren't worth my time. Breaking Dawn was atrocious.

I love watching actors portray bodyswap.

I heavily enjoyed the fall of the Malfoy family. Subtle, pathetic, and fantastic all at the same time.

That sounds like an awesome charity drive! TGWTG does a great one too, but it’s mostly slashy shenanigans and a bunch of guys (and PushingUpRoses) staying up for like twelve hours to drum up money and showing sneak peaks of videos in reward for staying up late. Angry Joe squeeing at donations of hundreds of dollars is particularly amusing.

*wibbles* Katie! Thank god for the internet and the support she got. Those boys are such morons: a girl likes Star Wars - you should be friends with that girl! Most of my friends have been guys, followed by geeky guys when I got into high school. Silly boys: Star Wars is for everyone!
[User Picture]From: sora50
2010-12-18 01:34 am (UTC)

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Re: The parakeet noises. Short answer: yes. Longer answer: here.
[User Picture]From: aunt_zelda
2010-12-18 01:46 am (UTC)

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Oh, ok! Thanks very much, that was very confuzzling. (Curse my non-Trekker-ness!)
[User Picture]From: sora50
2010-12-18 02:10 am (UTC)

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Don't worry. I misjudged the Q score of tribble sounds among even the geek community. My bad.
[User Picture]From: sora50
2010-12-18 02:13 am (UTC)

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Also the answer definitely is garlic, but minced garlic. Not a fan of garlic presses.
[User Picture]From: aunt_zelda
2010-12-18 03:05 am (UTC)

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(Took me a second to realize what you were talking about.) Garlic FTW!
Yeah, garlic presses are a pain to clean.

P.S. Love your icon. Pushing Daisies is one of my favorite shows ever. So sweet and morbid and clever and perfect!